Are five husbands better than one? Kimber McKay at TEDxUMontana

Translator: Barış Bozlaker
Reviewer: Ariana Bleau Lugo I came to talk to you tonight about my research
in the Nepalese Himalayas, and what it’s taught me about
definitions of marriage. I’m a cultural anthropologist and I’ve studied marriage
and family systems now, cross-culturally, for 20 years. A lot of us in America have
a template in mind when we think about marriage
and family. We have a set of ideas
regarding what’s normal, even ideal,
with respect to marriage and family. And it doesn’t occur to a lot of us
to wonder where that template came from. I came to the topic
from the perspective of my own family. My parents divorced when I was young, they remarried,
had more biological children, and adopted yet others
from another country. So, my ideas about family were
fairly flexible from a pretty early age. By contrast, my ideas about marriage
were much more rigid. They were informed by what I saw
around me growing up in rural New Hampshire
in the 1970s and 1980s. And like many Americans,
I internalized the idea that a good and proper marriage involved a relationship between
one man and one woman. I never thought to question that template,
or where it came from, or how other people in other societies might organize their ideas,
or their template. So, when I became a student of
cultural anthropology, and decided to focus on marriage
and family, I started to question that more seriously. In order to complete my studies, I had to choose a society where
I would go live, learn the language, and spend over a year living with people and coming to know their way
of doing things. So, fast-forward to 1995, and I found myself walking
along with 11 quarters up this valley, carrying the ridiculous and now
embarrassing amount of stuff that I imagined I was going to need
to make it through a year of living there. So this is in Humla district,
in Nepal’s Northwestern corner, right off on the border with Tibet in a place that lacked roads. The nearest road from the Nepal side
was a three-week walk away at my pace. And, the villages lacked electricity, toilets, running water, telephones,
and modern health care. To get there, I flew in on this airplane, landed on a gravel runway,
and started walking. To get to my field site,
I had to walk between 8 and 16 hours, and there were lots of villages
to choose from. Eventually I chose this one.
It’s a little village called Karami, with 300 residents,
and it had a hot spring; enough said! (Laughter) So I stayed there for a year, talking with the people who lived there, and coming to understand
their way of living, and their thoughts about family
and marriage. The reason I was attracted
to this place is because they have a very unusual
marriage system where, typically, people start out their marital career
marrying polyandrously, which means that women
have multiple husbands. But, in fact, this system
has a lot of flexibility, so many people are monogamous. Some people are polygynous,
which means they have multiple wives, and there’s a tremendous amount
of flexibility and open-mindedness with respect to how
to define marriage in that society. So, the day I arrived,
I met my friend Carchun Lama, who is somebody I was to become
very close with. Carchun was the same age as me. And she had five husbands
at that time and three children. I, by contrast, had no husband
and no children, and this was a subject
of grave concern for my friends, who were to spend many hours
advising me about how to tackle the obstacles
they forsaw in my future; finding a husband, withstanding the rigors of pregnancy,
labor, and delivery at the advanced age of 26.
(Laughter) But, their concern for me
was vastly overshadowed by their concern for my boyfriend, who lived with me for a little while, and the serious error in judgment
he seemed to be making, having chosen a woman so lazy,
and so evidently incompetent, who’s content to spend her days asking inane questions about
marriage and family, sitting around writing about them
in her notebook. So I had a lot of adventures
in this place, and many experiences that were
mind-expanding. But, of all of those experiences, both for me as a cultural anthropologist,
and for me as a human being, the most mind-expanding of all was coming to understand
the flexibility in their system of defining marriage and family, and coming to understand
what it was like to live in a place with no single way of arranging
relations between spouses, or a single set of ideas about
a good and proper way of marrying or providing for your family
and household. Now anthropologists have been interested
in this topic for hundreds of years. There aren’t a lot of things
that are cultural universals; things that all societies do. But one of the things
that nearly all societies on Earth do is put into place a system of practices
regulating relationships between spouses, between spouses and in-laws,
and between spouses and children. And this is what we refer to
when we’re talking about marriage. Beyond that, we don’t get
very much more precise. And the reason for that is because the incredible variability that we see
across societies, with respect to marriage. So, many people will know that
it’s very common for monogamy to occur. Beyond monogamy, though, even more societies either permit
or encourage polygamy in one of two forms. Polygyny, where there are multiple wives, or polyandry, much less common,
where there are multiple husbands. Beyond those kinds of marriage,
we see many societies, both historically and contemporarily, in all different sorts of societies,
permitting same-sex marriage. The levirate, where,
if a woman’s husband dies, she can expect to be remarried
to his brother, and societies with the sororate,
where, if a man’s wife dies, he can expect to be remarried to
any available sister that she might have. We even see societies where something
called ghost-marriage is practiced. And that’s where,
if a family has a child who dies before reaching the age
of marriage and reproduction, they can marry his spirit
to another community member, and any children she might have
would be attributed to the spirit-spouse, thereby continuing the lineage
through her. So, one thing that anthropologists
of marriage come to understand is that there are lots and lots
of different forms of marriage that work across societies. Moreover, they permit people to thrive
and even to prosper. They don’t have to fit
any particular template. Now, among these types, fraternal
polyandry is one of the least common. In Humla, how it works is a woman
marries a man and his brothers. So, her co-husbands
are each other’s brothers. And, in some families,
this is very advantageous, because, in Tibet, on the plateau, where this kind of polyandry
used to be common, and in the high Himalayan valleys
of the Nepalese, of Nepal and India, arable land is at a premium. So maintaining the estate of land, where
food can be grown by these farmers, intact from one generation to the next, when the brothers marry all together
and share a wife, can be very advantageous, and so people were very aware of that,
talked about that with me. In this family, there were three brothers
and co-husbands, and one wife. And I was very close to this family
and observed how they sort of arranged
their life and their household, given their polyandrous status. What happened in this family
was typical for polyandrous villagers. One husband might be absent
for long periods of time, engaging in pedestrian trade. Another husband might be up
at the yak pastures, the high-elevation yak pastures, for a good part of the year. And the third husband would be home
sort of looking after the agriculture. So what that meant was
for their shared wife, it was rare for her to have all
of her husbands home at the same time, competing for her attentions. And so, one of the things that’s
very special about this group of people is that they’re very candid and respectful of the reality that not all women
are suited to this task. It’s typical for people to begin, at least,
their marriages polyandrously. Some people stay polyandrous
for the duration of their adult lives. But other people choose
other marriage forms. This was my research assistant,
Manga Lama, and he is a person who had brothers, so technically, he could have
started out his marital career marrying polyandrously,
and sharing one wife with his brothers. But, because of their personalities
and desires for marriage, they decided that they wanted
to separately marry their own wife, and they never entered
into a polyandrous union. Eventually, the first family I showed you,
after nearly 20 years, transitioned out of polyandry,
and into separate monogamous households. Now, that decision and Manga’s decision
to never engage in polyandry, were not met with any particular
concern by the community. And no assignment of negativity,
or value judgment, or guilt and shame accompanied those decisions. And that’s typical of this group of people. They’re very candid about the fact
that different personalities are suited to different
marital arrangements. Moreover, they understand that what you may be suited to
as a young adult, may be different from
what you’re suited to as you age. And given the long, relatively long
in this day and age, life that Humalese enjoy,
their needs can change. This is my adoptive younger brother
Angduk Lama, making friends with
his first trout, here in Missoula. And he spent some time here with me. Currently, he’s in Humla. Last week we were chatting
and emailed him, wouldn’t it be fun to make a video
of our friend Andu Lama, who’s a polyandrous woman,
two husbands, and see what she has to share with you
about her thoughts regarding polyandry. So, here is Anda talking
in her own words. (Video) Interviewer:
What do you think about polyandry? Are there any advantages? Woman: If the husbands
agree with each other, then it’s good. One takes care of the local work,
the other does the outside work. We don’t have much land or property
to devide. We only have three small patches of land. So we totally depend on my husbands’
skills and labor for living. This year our barley production
was very small. Interviewer:
Have you ever had jelousy issues? How did you deal with it? Woman: I’ve never had that issue.
Sometimes, if they’re drunk, they argue. Other than that, they are fine. Kimber: I love that one of her husbands
chimes in at the end: ‘It all works great,
unless somebody’s drunk.’ (Laughter) Sounds like a lot of families I know. (Laughter) So, there’ve been lots of changes
over the last couple of decades, being in and out of the villages. I’m very proud to work with
an organization called the ISIS foundation that brings hygiene, sanitation, health
and education projects to people there. And that allows me to wear
my other hat in life, and to pursue my other passion,
which is pit latrines. Because, I firmly believe
that every Humlee household should have a toilet that they love. Other forces of change are at work. Recently, in fact, over the last decade,
Nepal went through a civil war. And the insurgents campaigned,
in part, on asking Nepali people to
really scrutinize their traditional culture. In Humla, they went after polyandry
in particular. Despite these forces of change,
polyandry has continued. We just resurveyed the villages, and fully 30% of households
still have polyandrous marriages. And of the monogamous marriages
of today, more than 70% of them in Karnali
used to be polyandrous. So both polyandry and the flexibility
of the system are persisting. I don’t want to portray Humla as some kind of conflictless Shangri-La,
’cause it’s not. They’ve conflicts over lots of topics. But one topic that
they don’t have conflict over is the definition of marriage. And I believe that
that has everything to do with the flexibility inherent
in the system, and their compassionate,
empathetic and wise recognition that characterologically,
and in terms of personality, different people are suited
to different marital arrangements. Moreover, what they’re suited to can change as time passes,
and needs change. So I’m not advocating that we all
start marrying polyandrously. I don’t know how you feel
about your brothers or how you feel about
your husband’s brothers, but I’m guessing fraternal polyandry
might not be your first choice. What I am advocating for, however,
is that we look closely at how… how narrowly we’ve defined
marriage in our culture, and we ask ourselves
where that template came from. As for me, given the opportunity, and based on 20 years,
thinking this over, and observing this incredibly
remarkable, flexible society, I would advocate
for a more flexible system. One that avoids guilt and shame, and which recognizes, respects,
and, indeed, uplifts, more than one good and proper
marriage configuration. So, in conclusion,
I’d like to turn the question that I asked myself as a young adult
over to you: If you had the opportunity
to redefine the template, what would it look like, and why? In Tibetan: Thuk-je-che,
thank you. (Applause)

100 thoughts on “Are five husbands better than one? Kimber McKay at TEDxUMontana

  1. My best guess is the vast majority of or planet is mognomis based on health issue for instance inbreeding and othere health issues. I wonder how these people eyesight is.

  2. If One Could Shift the World's Culture & Help with the Rising Population Growth, what would one do or charge?

    What is your answer to the "?"

    My Answer : Polyandry as the new norm 29.5%; straight-monogamy being like 20% of the population, gay / lesbian-monogamy being like 5-10% of the population, polygyny being like 1-3% of the population and about 37% staying single. Then switch to a more Matriarchal Society.

  3. Even a goose can have a monogamous relationship with another goose. It shouldn't be that hard for people.

  4. While a flexible marriage system is certainly interesting and less oppressive, it would probably lead to chaos in a large society if marriages are no longer secured units and partners are free to enter or leave. Environmental and practical considerations aside, psychologically most humans want to own one or more partners but rarely do any want to be owned as one of the many partners. This unbalance makes both polygamy and polyandry hard to work on a large scale, unless we kill off most men or most women. Just my personal opinion.

  5. this is bad culture we know about that nepal government also trying to remove such types of bad culture but why u bullies making such types of documentary .u are being happy to playing such innocent people who are poor uneducated.i am from nepal this culture is only at certain area like 50-100 family in humla district.nepalese respect everybody this is our culture .but u making such types of bullies fucking video .

  6. ok so I'm from India and I've been to Nepal recently. Im into any "cultural anthropology" stuff but I've asked a lot many people in Nepal and a majority of em expressed shock when they heard about "polyandry' / 'polygamy'. One of em did tell me that yes there's a certain tribe that practices this kind of relationship. But for em this wasn't a 'normal'.

    Not sure if these people featured in these videos are being honest or just repeating what they were told to do so for the sake of her research / Tedx talk.

    O btw all those who think it's such indigenous tribes from some part of Asia who do 'polyamory' or polyandry' or polygamy stuff and these things are still new to western society, I got to point out that 9 out of 10 videos that I saw on polygamy / polyandry / polyamory were uploaded by a European or an American.

    I really couldn't understand what was the whole objective of this woman speaking on this topic.

    I've been following Tedx talks for quite some time and every other video that I've watched came with a certain moral in it.

    So what was she intending to say here? Have 5 husbands and that'd make your life better? That too in an age where people can't even have one successful relationship with one person.

  7. It would seem the talk this lady provided was simply to "redefine western marriage" based on non-relational circumstances. The Nepalese lady simply said "without my husbands' I would not survive". It would seem her main driver is economic rather than desirable. The young woman we work in Africa say the same thing about their economic plight, they turn to selling themselves in a desperate need to survive. We dont say "Wow thats wonderful, you just have a wonderful way of living, it really works", we help them see that life is full of a lot more than their current problems and full of potential. Kimber might be an Anthroplogist but I would certainly not take her advice on socieology.

  8. all the quaint appeal of these communities ENDS the moment you have a toothache and no jewish dentist withinย five thousand miles.

  9. Lol, the fact that you women think you'll be getting the guys you actually want, the top tier guys, to subscribe to polyandry is so ridiculous it's laughable. Not only was polyandry historically the least prevalent mating system in all societies polygyny beating out the others by 85%, followed by monogamy, but even worse it was done more so for familial economic reasons and typically in third world spaces.

    Even worse with the difference in dynamic between what men and women offer, quite literally only the lesser males with worse genes would subject themselves to this as an alternative to leaving the gene pool, which also ends up worse for you reproductively, what good is offspring if they are of lesser quality. Your natural hypergamy goes against it at every aspect.

  10. An attempt at justifying free style fornication while married!
    Stick to your culture, you would Never understand theirs!

  11. The best solution is serial monogamy and marriages on a clearly specified determinate term that would automatically disolve when the marriage license expires. That would save us a lot of headaches and social turmoil and it would also make for a better and wider combination of genes for a healthier human product.

  12. Love this woman. She is smart. Been a marriage counselor for years. I agree with her. There is something seriously wrong with marriage in our society. I could write a book here. For some, not all, polyamory is the best pattern. Mating, any pattern, would work better in a small group of emotionally bonded people — the group we evolved to live in. However, beginning about ten thousand years ago, male hierarchy wiped out the small human group and replaced it. Now with any pattern, we are all living alone and lonely, among disconnected masses of disconnected strangers.

  13. How about fmr Prez Cristina's Argentina? She passed a law giving welfare checks to any woman (married or unmarried) and her siblings (no restriction on no. or who the father/s was/were!). Big estate owners, in the south east, started seeing women emerge from the wooded centre of their estate with an addl kid in tow, once a year, every year to collect Cristina's charity. They were indiscriminately fornicating with any passing male and getting pregnant!

  14. i think that polyandry wouldnt work in America it its near to impossible to find one man who can commit to a life long partnership let alone two or more

  15. i can see that because of the geographical reasons that having many husbands have its benefits, but why isn't there a type that women get to choose husbands she loves instead of getting her husband brothers?

  16. Funny…….extreme example…..they almost have to live like that. eveything because of work…..and what about diseases beetween brothers and sisters…..? and goats are everywhere with lonely sheppards……life is brutal. but culture is culture

  17. She should be learned enough to see you can't isolate and take the marriage separately from the rest of their beliefs and way of life through the generations. The family in the video and those that live in a similar fashion in Nepal are not contaminated by the same being-forming influences as someone living in California.

  18. All relationships have give and take and create imbalance no matter how open minded one is: even if you have a big heart and would likely agree to anything, take all the negativity upon yourself and maintain absolute equilibrium, there's no way you can assure that your partner does not get negative from receiving too much love and not giving enough, stress, and anxiety from factors that you can't control. So just like in math, a tug of war from balancing 2 ends of a string is not nearly as stable as the 3 corners of a triangle.

  19. I agree with everything she says… But the USโ€™s laws about adulterous actions (in certain states) would have to be rewritten and obviously the majority of people arenโ€™t appropriately open minded and it would cause problems in action. Good concept for a clean slate.

  20. It's all about the needs of the community and how you're raised. Very cool

  21. Itโ€™s a great idea. Lowers child production. Makes women work harder to attract the right set of brothers

  22. As someone in a polyamorous relationship, I really appreciate this talk. Relationships should be defined not by society but by what works best for the people involved. Society is shaped by people, not the other way around.

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  24. I find it interesting how angry some of the male comments are. Patriarchy has served some men well while it hasnโ€™t served all of them. Of course it would be scary for some to have to share their women or have women who desire more than one man. This talk is just a suggested challenge of status quo and an anthropological discussion, not a hateful video. If women were more equal and capable of having what men have in this world war would happen less and more children would be treated well and educated. People should do whatโ€™s best for the people they love. If men and women want to do this they should be able to. Women only marry men in polygamous situations for support and money, not because they prefer it. Itโ€™s similar in these cases as well and should be treated as such.

  25. I adore men, particularly my boyfriend … but having been married, one husband is quite enough trouble. 5 would drive me crazy.

    At the very least, I'd have to have my own bathroom.

  26. I have a boyfriend and a fience and we are very happy. I am so happy to see things like this being talked about, Love is love, if a relationship can be happy and loving with multiple people in it, why cant that be ok too?

  27. Paternity uncertainty. While it is interesting that it was never brought up in this video, it's "apparent absence" in this ted talk would, in my prediction, not be reflected in a similar video about a society as complex and large as ours implementing a similar system Atleast it wouldn't be honest if its noticed otherwise

  28. Considering the illegitimacy rate among blacks is 77%, Hispanic 50% and 30% white in the US, and All but a fraction of these women are wed to the state, it's seems the left have their utopia. Too bad this arrangement leads to such poor outcome for the children and society at large.

  29. I really like how flexible and open they are to different forms of marriage. Different strokes for different folks. So long as everyone involved is of age and genuinely had a choice in the matter (e.g. no coercion, guilt-tripping, brainwashing, looming threat of being shunned if they didn't conform to the group, etc) then whatever floats someone's boat should be no one's business but theirs. I personally can't imagine myself in a poly relationship, but if that's genuinely what you want and makes you (and your spouses) happy, have at it my dude.

  30. So when they transition from polyandry, who gets the children? Or how do they decide how to split them up? Children are very important in agricultural societies.

  31. I hate how everyone in the comments are straight cischet assholes who are commenting about cheating. There is a fine line between cheating and polyamory everyone. Please, at least do a quick Google search or something before commenting something hella offensive.

  32. Drivers' licensee expire, fishing licences do the same. My electrical licences must be renewed every 2 years. My daughter's nursing license same again. I would make the bloody marriage licence the same.

  33. I barely can deal with the complexity of one man, god save me from three hahaha. But I loved the point about being more flexible and tolerant about other people relationships, I wish one day this could be a reality.

  34. What was the birth ratio? of boys and girls? was it five boys to every girl?… I doubt it.

  35. Who cares. Would not work in a Christ-based society. One husband/one wife. Not a woman or man on the planet worth sharing anyhow.

  36. These systems lost in the cultural evolution game.They will lose again when they press against a society that reiterates monogamous superiority in managing and scaling the populations. When you are in a nook of the world no one wants to dominate, you can have this freedom. When you are in a region that has conflict, good luck defeating a system that does not ensure warrior men have a reasonable access to women.

  37. I don't even want to put up with my current husband anymore and I definitely don't want more than 1 of them.

  38. I wish that if I could redefine the template of marriage, it would be as long as the people involved are consenting, of age, are not being abused by each other, and arenโ€™t hurting anyone outside of the marriage they are ok. Marriage means many different things to culture; some think of it as continuing a bloodline more than love, and some the other way around. As long as no one is being physically or mentally hurt it should be fine.

  39. This comment section is full of whores. Off yourselves kindly.

  40. That template comes from the Bible
    "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and cling to his wife…." One can not help but notice the fact that the marriage consists of 2 people. One man, one woman.

  41. I'd be really interested in how lgbt people are accepted or not in that culture, because a lot of it seems like practicality and family and business based, and not even meant to be love based.

  42. It's only peaceful because the husbands and the wife stay committed to the marriage and don't engage in adultery.

  43. No thanks. One is enough for me, and it's not because of my culture or anything.

    I'm very confused as to why we are opening the concept of Polyandry when half of the women in the world are single in their 30s and 40s. All I can say is "give chance to others, don't hog them all" XD

  44. So property is so important to protect and not the growth of Tibetan population. Many men and one woman who is pregnant for nine months makes the population growth so slow and which they are already.

  45. More husband, more fights, more children to raised, more house chores to do. This is not the queen's life. If you love it do it I think she stated good reason for that. But I think having one is enough.

  46. Different cultures/groups have rules, norms or "templates" that address the specific geographic, economic and societal needs of that group. However, you can not take templates that work for an isolated village in the mountains of Nepal, or East African tribe and infer that those could be applied to a completely different society. If Kimber's goal was to bring awareness to or garner acceptance of human's amazing ability to adapt to their situation, I would be all for it. But, she went further and (IMO) suggested that the west's current template should be broadened to include multiple-partner marriages. As an anthropologist, she should respect our society's templates.

  47. 58, never married, & simply happier after trying to use this complicated method ๐Ÿ™‚ .

  48. I wonder if marriage wasn't till death, but for say 10 years. And if kids involved then for 20 years. That they could then see if they wanted to renew the contract. As marriage is a contract of till death do us part. Perhaps even shorter ones for 5 years. Rather than having all these failed marriages, there could be successfully concluded partnerships that have been beneficial and enlightening to all concerned in their life experiences.

    This could then leave doors open to negotiate for extra spouses into the agreements. Traditional royal marriages were of uniting two groups together, and not for love. We have gene pools, and the prevention of inbreeding. As well as the offspring and their care and also inheritances. There are reasons for everything in the past, which have now been able to be measured using technology for DNA etc, making new frontiers possible.

    If we take a look at Star Trek Denubolan's, 3 Husbands each with 3 Wives, and 3 Wives each with 3 Husbands. The point is an open mind towards a different way of doing things, with a the fullness of integrity and commitment and loyalty to all concerned. Negotiations of well informed open minded consenting adults surely is what freedom is about? To expand one's horizons beyond the limitations of those who have gone before us, and to ride on their shoulders beyond the things they could not see.

  49. It makes sense why many places would outlaw polyandry and polygamy. Marriage is one method by which power (wealth/affluence/land/etc.) can be attained. So consolidation of that much power could potentially threaten institutional authority

  50. Nope, because that's five males who will want to chop you up and eat you when the food supply is gone.

  51. Great talk, marriage should be defined by the consenting adults getting married. Everyone is different.

  52. Loved this video, bravo! I think that if they get education could change point of view about considering being single too ๐Ÿ™‚ Flexibility marriage into modern Occidental societies for me is about to find the right connection each other, being free and able to stand in a sane relation with others.

  53. lm very open to something different, oh and yes, toilets are important.

  54. She was interested in marragies so she moved to a remote mountain village in Tibet for a year and learnt all about their language and culture ! Ma gad, I wanna be like this girl when I grow older

  55. Great talk. Too bad so many people/cultures can't understand that it should be about what works for the individuals. Everyone is different and that's okay.

  56. She said guilt and shame . Marriage to brothers? The only plus the family DNA will be reproduced. What is the advantage of sharing a wife other than that ? I can't think of any that would make that a good deal short of there being a shortage of women . That's not an issue here in the states

  57. It is amazing to be able to talk about this! "Normally" people can adapt easily to what is right for them unless the are afraid and though we are getting more accepting these days of people making their own choices…. we do have our own opinions that we try to hide. I'm not sure sometimes which direction we are headed…. forward or backwards????????

  58. If you want a strange relationship, move to that country. It's not tolerated In the US, so stop trying to encourage unlawfulness.

  59. Its only a matter of time before the final taboo of pedophelia is cast aside. Then what will these people do?


  61. Interesting to me, that she seem unwilling or unable to spend a lot of time looking at her audience.

  62. Just cancel the concept of marriage in society . And then do such moral less things. Don't destroy mens life because of your selfish motive and inability to create a genuine relationship with one person. Cancel the concept of marriage because hoes will divorce u 5 people and will take your money for free.

  63. At 3:50 you forget to mention one other fairly new group – MGTOW
    Some men won't even get married anymore.

  64. Hmm see a lot of christians wasting their time watching Ted-talks without the need to learn anything..

  65. Let the feminists go live in the himalays and try it , polyandry ? more like a matriarchy in disguise, they would soon return to the city for all their home comforts,

  66. The template came from God. You only confused yourself with your education.

  67. So, marital freedom is…a woman could potentially have a husband plus his brother/s until she doesn't? Hmmm. Not a divorce lawyer in sight.

  68. The basic idea is to destroy the family. Traditionally family members supported each other, and the family unit was stronger than the sum of its parts. The Kabbalah knows this, and they must destroy it. Support womenโ€™s issues. Make women unsatisfied with traditional families. Give women the resources to support themselves. Teach women that a career is more important than family and children. Make dropping a child and returning to work easy. Defeat fathers. Remove all authority and power from men. Emasculate men. Make them worthless, except at the highest levels of the Kabbalah.

  69. People should marry if they are planning for children. There is no other legitimate reason to legally marry someone.

  70. I have no husband . Hard to believe wearing sweatpants in public ?

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