Coming Soon: Simply K for Kindergarten // Author Interview // Master Books Homeschool Curriculum



good morning moms and master books hope you're having a fantastic week so far hey today I am blessed to have author Carrie Bailey author of the new simply K curriculum here's what's pretty cool I was able last night to break into the server wasn't terribly hard because I have the password but I was able to hack into the server and get a copy of what the designers and the editors are working on on simply K so later today there will be a preview of bootleg preview of this of the program put up it's not the official so if there's a comma or a period it's out of place don't don't worry about emailing me because you know the proof is I've got to go through it and all of that but it'll give you a good idea what the program looks like but what I'd like to do having carry with us today is to talk a little bit about the heart behind the program what the program is meant to do what it isn't meant to do those types of things and then if you have feedback questions anything like that be sure to comment Kerry is in the group as a moderator as well and so she can answer questions I'm happy to answer questions and if you comment it gives you a chance to have 2,500 reward points that's 25 dollars of purchasing power at master books comm so be sure to comment let us know that you're here and watching as well okay so Carrie Carrie it was originally part of the moms of master books and she was a helpful mom of master books back in the I you like the second or third moderator right Carrie might have been the fourth charity and Jessica and Anna for moderators okay okay yeah so so you came out as a moderator and in that process I learned a little bit about your background so if you could share your background kind of your academic background and and whatnot with the group that'll help kind of lay a foundation okay I have a degree in early childhood education which in Arkansas is like preschool to fourth grade basically and I have taught I actually taught special education self-contained classrooms sixth seventh and eighth grade my first year teaching that was an experience and then I moved into a regular classroom teaching kindergarten and obviously in there I was in a good district that had a lot of what they call inclusion classrooms so you would have students with autism and you know just sensory difficulties or any other difficulty and one year I had almost half of my class were like speech students or need it to be in speech so with kindergarten is kind of one of those things unless they're already receiving services a lot of times you don't know what you're getting until you get in there yeah so it definitely was a great experience for me and it's in some ways my background has helped me in home schooling but in other ways it has actually inhibited me and kind of been a challenge just because of the mindset of changing that from what a public school system actually states you should be doing versus what like your training and what you know for child development should be happening and honestly I struggled in the classroom with being inside the box it's I guess just not how I always think and so I kind of hated the system I don't know how else to say that so in a way I think that has also helped me to transition better I think that when we started connecting through the moderation of the moms and master books that was kind of where we connected originally was even though you had been in a public school setting and taught and had training so and I understand because I was a principal of a private school so I knew what it was like working with preschool kindergarten elementary school teachers and the peer pressure that they felt from the other teachers in the school and from the public school and all of those types of things that classical training of a teacher and what it's supposed to look like there's tension there's tension in that right so absolutely but even though you had that background in that experience we also shared a lot of the same philosophies as MA as students go yes and so that was the original introduction with Carrie into master books was with the mountain master books moderating finding out that she had teaching experience and and certification qualification in putting together a kindergarten curriculum but she also had an openness to the master books method right so it leaves us in a little bit to the philosophy and I'll I'm gonna say kind of my view on it and then I'm gonna let you address my what you think and you're welcome to disagree with me it's okay we'll remove you from the group but you're welcome to disagree once so yeah that's not true twice okay so the thing about kindergarten is it's probably the most diverse age imaginable you have all these children's with different emotional intellectual motor capabilities right so no one five-year-old fits into a box at all I can make 15 year-olds fit into a box better than I can five-year-olds because everything's so different the child's own emotional growth and all of that the parents abilities and stimulation from outside forces so but yet it's one of the most intense times because kindergarten moms of kindergarteners tend to bring the most pressure that their kindergartener needs to function like the top performing kindergartner on the block so that's the challenge that we face in serving the kindergarten market is you have this very diverse population with a lot of different skill levels in a very intense parent a lot of times with it with that group but then how you serve them in all in one package and I'll let you address kind of what your thoughts are on that yes so I like to use the analogy because we most all of us are parents and so we have raised our children and we know that not all of them take their first step at the same time not all of them speak at the same time and so when you look at that that early childhood development varies greatly among children so for instance even in my home I have three boys all boys yet each one of them is so unique and we see that as they get older we see that personality come out a week we accept it then but when they're starting school a lot of times we want to say well this is the norm this is what my child should be doing and then we get hung up on what they should be doing instead of pulling back and saying okay but where is my child right now what can I do to scaffold or basically build layers to help them to learn and so that is the whole purpose of this program is to not just scaffold the child but to also scaffold the teacher because the mom is new to this a lot of times now the veteran home schoolers can still use this and benefit please don't get me wrong but the purpose of this and the heart behind this was to be able to make this simple for the parent to be able to pick it up open it it's pretty much scripted you know we're going to be providing videos we're trying to do everything we can to come in and support that parent as they ignite a love for learning like that's what I wanted when I started looking at kindergarten curriculum even when I first started homeschooling there wasn't anything out there I was just like I'll just make my because there wasn't anything there there were not things available that I felt like had my goals in mind and when you asked me to you know write this I kind of laughed at first cuz I was like okay is he joking but then it just kind of all came into play and I've tried to take what I felt was the most important that would be able for children of this age to be successful and then also look at what they're going to be doing with master books curriculum like going into foundations on this for instance you know I tried to make everything where it leads up to that what would they need before they get there so that way they are successful and they're not frustrated a lot of times we like to just say oh I want to put my kid in this so sometimes we can feel like oh they're doing great there they're ahead well sometimes it's it's better to take the more gentle approach and lead them into a love of learning than a frustration point so the philosophy behind the series is really the developmental approach is key because you're developing them spiritually you're developing them intellectually to be able to handle that you're developing stamina right to help the child be able to be attentive and not be bored with a love of learning you're developing motor skills which are essential yeah I'll never forget my daughter's my oldest daughter in kindergarten they were like judging her academic ability and her ability to be in school based on her ability to use scissors and and it's just like I don't even understand this concept like I still don't know how to use scissors so you know how how does this work and and and I know it's an important motor skill that needed to be developed that's why she was in school or I wouldn't need you people like right yeah okay I'm sorry passed parent a wound from a kindergarten teacher I've got many of them I told Carrie before we went live I said if I could have done like kindergarten through high school in my 30s and 40s I think I would have rocked it I think I would have been like an A student but I wasn't ready until about thirty to have had that experience so but here I am so okay so before we get into a little bit more than nuts and bolts of it what would you say was your biggest challenge what's been the biggest challenge in writing the curriculum in honesty yeah seriously the biggest challenge has been in the back of my mind all the moms and moms of master books and knowing that these women know what they're doing and dads too by the way and just like even okay for each example even a Bible lesson you know just making sure every single thing that I put in there or that I said was exactly accurate not that I'm not going to try to be accurate that you have to understand that sometimes you know we're human we make mistakes so even you know something that I may have thought was exact there are new and double check that you know things like that because I know that the moms of master books they're going to call you on it you know and so in a way they all have been in my head as I've been writing curriculum you know like what are they going to say how would they react to this honestly that has been a challenge more than just the writing of it I think yeah and then maybe like also because this is my first time writing anything like curriculum wise for someone else but to take that and put that into design probably has also I'm learning some things along the way which is great because I enjoy learning yeah the process for master books because one of the things that were so focused on here it really is the 80/20 rule if you're not familiar with the 8020 rule it's something in business that is is key to helping people and I think it's essential to helping people in life but essentially what it is is 80% of your effectiveness in life comes from 20% of the things that you're doing and a lot of times in life we tend to focus on the 80% of things the minutia if you will that produces the least amount of us also produces 20% of the results in our life well schooling is that way too we spend all this time doing busy work and seat work and all these things 80% of our time is spent on activities it only produces 20% of growth what if we focused on 20% of the activities that helped to produce 80 percent of growth in a student and that's the master books philosophy what as is unique to master books is that we do have a focus group if you will a 15,000 miles almost 15,000 moms and users who tell us when it's working and when it's not working that's why we use the tagline homeschooling for the real world because we're getting real-world feedback from home schoolers it's this is what's happening in the class from what's working what's not what's resonating with the masses in what's excel excelling and so now especially it like this last year to see test scores is is exciting to us because people can say is it enough but now we can say yeah but do you see the test scores do you see the happiness in the home do you understand the emotional health of the student all of those things when we when we look at designing a curriculum like Carrie said it definitely weighs on us when it gets when it hits the mass population of the moms of master books how will it be received will they understand the heart behind it well will it be a success I truly believe this is going to be a success for kindergarten I do think it's important though that parents understand the heart behind it that it's not meant to give them good SAT scores in kindergarten it's meant to develop them for a life of learning and so that is why we call it simply K it's not a intense K maybe at some point we'll develop an intensity K but right now the simply K developing emotion of the approach so there's four components right Kari in this course yet that we focus on in each lesson so let me start first it's 36 weeks of kindergarten and when we say kindergarten that is an average approximation I got to stop putting my hand in front of face you can't see it but my I keep like covering your face man okay so the the kindergarten is is typically your age five right yeah but it could be we could be a four year old that was advanced or a six year old that maybe took a little bit more time to to be ready so so we use that kindergarten is is is a broader term thirty-six weeks three days a week yes and then each week we'll have like extended activities if they want to do that or even if they need to break the lessons up and make them go five days they can also do that okay separate from this course is the math lessons for a living education K which get partnered with Angela to write that yeah you're a co-author on it and that is the reason that we separated math from this is some students can move faster through math or use preschool math they could use K for preschool and then use first grade to go along with this so rather than one size fits all it's a little more modular in its approach is that yes correct okay okay so what are the four areas that are focused on in each of the lessons so we have life skills and Bible in rhyme time and then a section that's called a tea season more okay so the summation for the four areas rhymed a Bible is learning lessons from God's Word and how we can live for him Bible stories character memory verses are used to lay a biblical foundation yes okay rhyme time learning poetry and new vocab – mm-hmm life skills learning how to do important things around the house which would be I see that there are skills on cutting so they actually do like scissor work and developing motor skills and those types of things yes but they also do things like laundry learning how to make their bed proper hygiene all of those things are within the life skills section okay and then ABCs and more and that's that's learning the alphabet basic reading skills that's kind of a prep introduction it doesn't replace foundation phonics right yeah no it leads up to foundations so before you get to foundations I think it's less than three or four they start blending words so what I did we're gonna start blending words there then I felt like that if they knew their letter names and letter sounds before going into that they're going to be way more successful than trying to learn that and blending all at the same time okay so that is there there's also what I call phonemic awareness so that is what they hear and being able to pull those things out like beginning sounds in a word they don't need to see that to be able to hear that dirac starts with the sound basically we also use like the poems are for phonemic awareness as well that rhyming is a huge thing for phonemic awareness and it's covered throughout the entire course okay so as we talk about some of these skills right in a in a in a school setting there's there's definitely it's almost like a sorting class in a public school setting and in some school districts there's actually depending on the state you live and there's actually special funding for special needs students so if a student shows an aptitude like if they're not in the average scale or they haven't develop skills a lot of times it's real easy to just kind of push them into a special-needs type situation when when sometimes it's just a matter of the student needs more time dĂ©veloppĂ© yes so so in this we want to be careful that that parents also don't make too quick of assumptions about their students right when they're learning about phonetic awareness and in all of these things or like cutting scissors granted it took me till well I still don't know how to cut scissors but I have that you know that didn't affect my ability to succeed in life right right yeah so it kind of breaks my heart and and this is like I guess a passion of mine is that I've worked with special-needs kids my own boys have several diagnoses yet they are also very intelligent and even in my special needs work I cannot tell you how many of the kids it blew my mind but they were in a self-contained classroom with average to above-average average IQ yet because they may have had ADHD or oppositional defiant disorder then they're put into a self-contained classroom and so I can't stand that that's wrong like they shouldn't be they're being held back I had boys like a whole entire class I had all these football players and I will never forget being able to teach them basic algebra concepts that nobody else thought that they can learn it and just their face and like lighting up and so I think sometimes we automatically just assume you know because also things like ADHD dyslexia those are we've learned more and so sometimes when we learn more like even in science you know we have a tendency to bring that autism we bring it towards the front you know we used to label children with Asperger's well now it's all under the autism spectrum disorder and so there are levels of learning as well without having a diagnosis and I think a lot of times we jump too quickly to label and get kids of diagnosis I mean I have a child who's 12 and didn't receive a diagnosis until I believe he was 11 or almost 11 and so he's actually doing well and he thrives with master books but again sometimes it's a learning style sometimes it's just that that's not how my brain thinks I need to learn that as an adult you know there are things that for instance jessica is Mikola she's very different than I am she's more type-a and I'm more I don't know B or C or something and so I've learned that she's strong where I'm weak and I even tell my children that because they're different and so I'm sorry for the little rant here but like if that's one of my passions is that we let our kids learn where they are and you know not everyone who struggles even at eight years old to still read has dyslexia and I see it all day long if everyone not just in this group but other places everyone thinks that everybody nowadays has something wrong if we aren't learning to wear the education standards who by the way are politicians saying what should be happening they're not teachers they're not educators in case people don't know that it's a politician who doesn't have an education degree that's stating the standards and again it's all wrong and I don't know how else to say that but it's wrong right in a program like this some kids are going to step right into and it's gonna be very easy and they're gonna flow through it move through it naturally other students may get hung up on something like scissors or they may get cut up on something like hearing phonetic sounds and the part of that is just giving a little room for growth at that age and not getting overwhelmed or rushing into a diagnosis of our being overly concerned because again at five years old there's still so much that's happening in a child yeah okay so we have then in each each lesson there's a teacher narrative that this truly is open and go like you open it up and the teacher all they have to do is really follow the prompts yes yes so can I show something yeah I don't know how well they'll see it but we can make sure that there's a preview okay so I just wanted to say at the beginning of the lesson is what we call a lesson prep page and so this page here has like your supply list and we've even taken that a step further we've told you what day you need it and what section you need it in and then we also have a look ahead section and we did this so that way if there's something that needed to be prepared or prepped that you know right there from looking at this one sheet what you're going to me you also know what your objectives are that week like what your child studying your memory verses there the extended activities are also listed there so to me this page really helps the parents when they're going through the course to be able to just look and see is there anything I need to grab is there anything that I need to do before I get into this lesson which is very helpful to me so I'm looking lesson one prep page I've got Bibles crayons the weather chart I'll go in that a minute white paper the student pages then I have the look ahead so there's maybe an ink pad or paint to do thumb prints with small rocks small sticks cotton balls are something that I may need from a supply objectives we're gonna learn the letter A skills and concepts we're doing whether terms review colors cutting skills and tracing the memory verse is Deuteronomy 6:5 love the Lord God with all your heart with all your soul with all your strength and then extended activities these are things that they can do outside of the program is that right allow them to cut more even if you draw lines on the edge of a paper to cut the fringes and the edges and then play a board game for one-to-one correspondence color recognition number recognition such as chutes and ladders sorry trouble Canyon etc yeah that every lesson has a prep page yes okay and then the lessons are broken down by the for different life skills the reading all of that right so every lesson has four components that are covered during that lesson yeah three times a week yes so then they could do like math the opposite days if you wanted a five day a week kindergarten you could actually do math on Tuesdays and Thursdays you could okay good mostly mostly because that that course series already had a template of five days a week so we kept with that okay okay so you could do the game you could do a game you could do the extra the extended activities then if you wanted to make it bigger like that good yes now in the be in the front matter there's elements in the course so there's a beseech our ABC cards and mini books what are those okay so I actually have another sample here so the mini books and this is just a page these are going to be in the back of the book they should be I think a little bit thicker paper if anybody has the bugs book that thicker cards in the back and so basically what you will do is you're going to cut this out one of the things there's also like a course supplies list is for the child to have a book basket or bin it can just be anything I mean these are not going to be very big books like they're going to be that big so it's hand held for the little students but you are cutting those apart and keeping those and they use those within the lesson each week this sets them up it's what I call concepts about print so you are modeling it first for the student and doing what we call a picture walk so you walk through so they understand that the pictures are cues and clues for them and then it leads on if you have like on day one you're you're doing that picture walk and then reading it to them yourself and then day two they're actually going to take their mini book they're going to highlight the letter of the week throughout that book and then he will reread it to them and then on day three they you reread it to them and they can put it in our book basket if you feel like your child is an advanced kindergartner then they have the option to be able for you to hand in that book and see if they can read it on their own now these are simple things it's like CC cake CC camel things like that so they can be successful but that will help them when they get to foundations and begin reading right so essentially you're helping establish neuro pathways and connections in the brain helping them develop different connections it's part of the part of the developmental approach yeah okay and so those are manipulatives that are in the book that's not something like the ABCs chart that's a sheet that they can tear out and use yes they will actually use every single day of the course on the back for them to use tracer tracer page basically of the letters okay and then we have things to know it's is one of them is the course is completely a tool to to be used in the parents hands I mean it doesn't say it that way but I'm paraphrasing that customize this course to fit your home your style in your student please yes and then another one that's really important watching your child for fatigue and it's just kind of keeping it sure mhm and doable absolutely so that the student doesn't become overwhelmed by the material right so I have my middle son especially he can fatigue quite quickly especially if it's anything to do with like fine motor writing things like that so I just watch him and one day we may do two lessons with math lessons for living education where the next day they only can do one or one week in language lessons he can write his full poem on his own where the next week he that may cause him frustration so I come in and again my role as parent and teacher is to support them to come in alongside them let them know they're not alone that I'm here with you you know modeling for them guiding them coaching them basically is is what I feel like is a very good word 220 what you're doing yep yeah I think we have to be conscious that we run this fine line especially at this age because we're starting to prepare them for a life of learning and we're laying really strong foundations and in the brain those connections are being made so learning is either fun and exciting or learning is painful and in overwhelming and whatever connection the student makes at that juncture and in like kindergarten level can a preschool to kindergarten first grade they'll carry that forward through that learning experience so my oldest once she realized like for her school is exciting to begin with then it turned ugly and from that moment on learning for her pretty much was a fight all the way through because in her brain this is a painful ugly process that you can't win it and and we learned a lot through that process mm-hmm yeah I think I mean it's just it's like parenting the more that we do this the better we become at it you know are there things with my first child that I would if I could go back and redo I would I think probably every parent feels that way if you got it right on the first time let me know because I need to talk to you but you know like we learn as we go and I I think that's a great thing because I even tell my own children you know I don't know everything sometimes I'm learning right along with you and I think that being very honest and wrong with them also lets them see that you know even as an adult we are still learning and learning to appreciate you know what God has given us and be able to focus on those things is also important so yeah you're modeling I mean that's that that's one thing we send their kids to school and the teacher models this is what learning looks like for a homeschool mom you're actually modeling a lifestyle and so the way you approach learning new things and discovering and having to work through difficult things that's the behavior pattern you set up for your students absolutely so sometimes we have to be reminded of the fact that we're disciple extent yes absolutely isn't awesome opportunity but it also has a responsibility with it right parenting parenting in general whether you're a homeschool parent or not in my opinion has a huge responsibility it takes your time in your effort it really does and you know I think that God has charged it well I know he has you know charged us with that and I tell my children things like that I tell them you know whether you like this or not you know this is my responsibility God has given me this responsibility as your parent and yes they definitely are learning from us and I'm not perfect at all you know and so there are times I make mistakes but again you know even even in teaching I'm like you know what that's wrong I'm sorry come back to that and let mom show you again you know even things like that just saying I'm sorry you know I'm wrong right it's okay you know you don't have to have it all together and be be the perfect teacher there really is no such thing no we're men not gods so exactly yeah I'm learning and growing with my kids the thing I try to let them know is I maybe have 20 years more life experience but because of that they're able you know they're maturing in a much better rate because they're they're able to learn from experiences and and so yeah I expect more from them at 15 than I had at 15 right you know because they have also 20 years of experience so okay so in the book there's the scope and sequence which basically tells us every week like week one four-letter skills we're learning about the letter A life skills were understanding weather terms reviewing colors cutting skills and tracing for a rhyme poem we're doing ABC tumbledown now take this little ball and then for a Bible story we're studying on Noah's Ark a rainbow promise a colorful coat and and so they can you'll actually you can go through and see over the 36 weeks what skills are being reviewed what's being taught and you could easily add to this and build this reinforce this if you wanted to absolutely so another thing I would like to point out is we're kind of doing in this course a hybrid schedule so I know everyone's familiar with so we're actually using sequence and you'll have a section at the side that will have like week 1 and then you know every section what you're doing and then you'll have an area where you can put a due date or a checkmark whichever you prefer but one of the things for those people who are in a state that you need to keep records because some of these things are hands-on I don't really like worksheets and even when we were doing the math okay one of the things was well we need to have a worksheet here because you know some people have to report that for their state now I'm just like I just almost cringe because I just don't love worksheets but so one of the things that they can do is to keep that schedule instead of having to try to keep the whole book or you know if you want to pick samples you could but if you keep that schedule right there with the scoping sequence it will be your proof of what you covered for the school year ok gosh yeah that's good ok so then from scope to sequence it moves right into the lessons and it's it's pretty easy to jump right in because first thing they're doing is weather so there's a like how long does each of the four things take what was kind of the goal in that so I actually did a lesson with he was three then he's now for my youngest and it took us about 15 to 20 minutes to do everything for the full four sections yes okay and that's my preference so I just think anything longer than that and even breaking that up with 15 minutes and then do something and it could be that there's an activity and if you want to swap things around you're welcome to do that obviously but anything longer than 30 minutes to me is too much yeah so they could break it up they could do like life skills go and play get a snack do the Bible lesson throughout the course of the day they could intermix its met they don't allow it to sit and do it at one time correct okay Bible translation NIV okay parents are certainly encouraged if you use another translation in your home certainly encourage to do that one of the important things to understand about translations is there's different ages that they're appropriate to and so KJV is 12th grade and up and comprehension level I'm not I know like NLT is a third grade level some of the like new American Standard ESV I believe are ninth 10th grade and above so I know NIV is one of the more easily read translations so but what we would encourage is a family if you are a KJV family to definitely take the opportunity to also read it in the translation or just read it in that translation and and if there's a difference explain the difference in work with your student at that it's a great teaching opportunity but that's why we use a translation that's easier so a lot of the actual Bible lesson gives them the scripture reference them to read because I feel like it's also important for our children to learn that we're actually reading from the Word of God and not just a piece of paper you know and once one of my boys I got tickled because they said something about my Bible I guessed it it looks like what they thought a Bible should look like so they didn't even realize I was reading the Bible because it didn't look like what they thought so I think that's important for us to you know impart to our children yes yes yeah okay and then if there's like the one that I'm looking at actually has sign language or they're using signs there are pictures to easily follow this is what you would do for each of those what is it called signs yeah nope you're good I think you're back are we there I think so is it frozen up I have sound I just don't have image well who are we there yes yep basically I used one of my kids we were trying to do sign language but it just became too wordy for me to explain to you and so what we did was just use one of my kids to pop in some pictures because motion always helps you memorize yes okay so I'm gonna take and I'm going to put a sample up I'm gonna put the scope in the sequence so that it shows how that works I'll do a sample list I'll do one week of lessons again these are the the preliminary it's moving very quickly we have I know that the team is is like rushing on this now we've kind of got a lot of it finalized and so you'll be able to get a good feel for it and it Kerry will be part of that as well if there's any questions and I'm excited by it we're also there are recommended master books books for the student as well so when we when this book becomes available there will also be packages of books that are available that you can add on to to have for reading and just that are interesting for that age appropriate age appropriateness or to add a little bit to the discussion and that type of thing so anything you'd like to add Carrie before we close out good I think well we didn't last week my wooden man fell off the TV sustained serious injuries and it was it was just a stressful time for us so this week he's been secured better to the wall I believe and we're happy he made it through the whole presentation but well Carrie thank you for joining us and we thank you for it's it's not easy to create a work and then let go of it and allow the public to see it and critique it I mean we all love it when it's praised it's hard to take the critique and those types of things the heart behind this is really it's not it's not short-term thinking it's long-term thinking it's developing good skills for your kindergartner so that that will set them up for a life of learning in a joy in learning and so we certainly do appreciate Kari risking herself to create a curriculum based on her experience and the training that she's received to also put it out there for the public to see and use and and and half have to be you know have a go public but I'm excited by it because I really do think that it does what we let the heart of master book says Holmes going for the real world developing a joy of learning definitely ink on paper to impact eternity this is very faith-based inter woven laying a foundation for that so be sure if you have questions to add it in the comments Carrie and I'll go through and make sure we can answer any questions we have and we hope you're having a blessed day and if you're starting kindergarten this program just address real quick because we're one we're the layout and everything else we're really trying to hammer out the details quickly and as best we can the the release date was pushed back a month but what we will do with this program is if you've pre-ordered it or you preorder it now as soon as the digital file becomes available which will be sooner than the physical book we will email you and we will give like three to four weeks ahead of time so that you have the digital file to use so if you're starting kindergarten as soon as this is available you'll have the files to be able to print off the sheets that you need for the student and to start kindergarten with your regardless we'll make sure that you have that okay so again thank you Carrie for joining me I appreciate it I appreciate the work that you do and moderating and the moms and master books and the countless families that you've helped with encouragement and that type of thing you also work with the special-needs moms the master books for special needs we have a page a group specifically for that and so you're part of that group and we're excited and you are a fellow Arkansas citizen so go home that's what you say I guess move pig sooie all right good well god bless you guys we will talk to you later have a fantastic week talk to you teaching tips Thursday we'll be talking more about setting up your school for a successful 2019 2020 school year and we're excited about what God is doing and showing us in different families and building up on that so we'll talk to you later bye-bye

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